Wednesday, December 9, 2015

How to Schedule/Monitoring a Section

Updated 12/14/15
Week two of monitoring a Section after the QRF Calculation on Monday, December 14th.  The Line of Demarcation is holding, in fact improving on the numbers from week 1.  I don't expect them to stay at these numbers, they will probably end up at about 90/10.
  • QRF vs Higher Teams     2-53 (3.8%)
    • in both cases (Breckenridge over Staples-Motley and East Grand Forks over Stephen-Argyle) the teams would be within the Tiebreaker Margin for seeding and the head to head would count.
  • QRF vs Lower Teams     37-3 (92.5%)
    • BGMR vs Clearbrook-Gonvick have already split games this year
    • Crookston and Win-E-Mac (this is currently WEM's only win)
    • Staples-Motley and Breckenridge are within the TM

Season ends today with Tiebreaker Margin applied:

  • #11 Badger/Greenbush-Middle River @ #6 Staples-Motley
  • #14 Hawley @ #3 Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton
  • #10 Wadena-Deer Creek @ #7 East Grand Forks
  • #15 Pelican Rapids @ #2 Warroad

  • #12 Park Rapids Area @ #5 Breckenridge
  • #13 Roseau @ #4 Barnesville
  • #9 Bagley @ #8 Crookston
  • #16 Frazee @ #1 Perham

TEAM Record Overall QRF Avg Opp QRF vs Higher QRF vs Lower QRF
Perham (4-0) 30 200 (0-0) (4-0)
Warroad (6-1) 138 266 (0-1) (6-0)
Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton (5-1) 142 291 (0-1) (5-0)
Barnesville (4-1) 151 256 (0-1) (4-0)
Staples-Motley (4-3) 170 206 (0-2) (4-1)
Breckenridge (3-2) 172 224 (1-2) (2-0)
East Grand Forks (2-4) 253 194 (1-4) (1-0)
Crookston (2-5) 268 203 (0-4) (2-1)
Bagley (3-3) 272 281 (0-3) (3-0)
Wadena-Deer Creek (2-3) 286 252 (0-3) (2-0)
Park Rapids Area (1-6) 342 199 (0-6) (1-0)
Badger/Greenbush-Middle River (2-5) 347 257 (0-4) (2-1)
Roseau (1-6) 383 262 (0-6) (1-0)
Hawley (0-6) 386 152 (0-5) (0-0)
Pelican Rapids (0-6) 389 147 (0-6) (0-0)
Frazee (0-5) 399 200 (0-5) (0-0)
(2-53) 3.8% (37-3) 92.5%




12/9/15
One of the things I keep hearing from people/coaches is that the QRF rewards teams that play bigger schools, that (in basketball) losing to a AAAA team is better than beating an A team.  That isn't how it works.

The QRF gives points for a specific game based on the quality of the opponent.  It does this by measuring what Class size they are in, the Classes of the opponents they have already played, and the number of wins they have against those opponents.  Using this criteria it jumbles all teams in the state into a value order irregardless of Class.  (See FAQ for specific formula parameters)

I've also heard coaches say they are rescheduling just to play bigger schools to help their QRF.  I can't stress this enough - IT DOES NOT help your QRF to lose games.  Winning games helps, and beating good teams regardless of Class helps your QRF.  Losing to good teams rather than bad teams just softens the landing.

The QRF will find you, you can only manipulate it based on results, not scheduling.  Too much of your QRF is based on how your opponents do that it isn't possible for you to artificially raise it by scheduling bigger schools.

Here's a different way to look at it. The Line of Demarcation post was done about halfway thru the season last year.  Below was done after the first QRF on 12/7/15.  The results in both cases are similar, and should stay similar right up until the end.

90% of the time you have lost to a team ranked above you
90% of the time you beat a team ranked below you

So is 90% good enough?  YES!  Just because Team A won the game doesn't mean they are better than Team B.  Sometimes it was an upset, the more talented team lost.  But in more cases, teams are essentially even, and one team wins and the other team loses.  Play each other twice in the season and split, it's mathematically impossible to put teams in an order where you didn't beat the team above you.  Another scenario is Team A beat Team B, Team B beat Team C and Team C beat Team A.  Someone will be ranked third in this scenario (and it happens all the time).

Right now, there are 4 games in this Section where the lower ranked team won:
  • #166 over #153
  • #198 over #197
  • #268 over #261
  • #281 over #268
There are 2 games in this Section where the higher ranked team lost:
  • #268 over #261
  • #206 over #198
All of these games have teams that are very close to each other in the rankings, and every other game played has the higher QRF team winning.

That is why you can't manipulate it with scheduling.  If you play all better schools and lose, you will be ranked below them.  If you play all less-talented schools and win, you will be above them, but not above better teams you didn't play.

Make your schedule to fit your team!  If that means getting ready for the playoffs by winning a lot of games, schedule that way.  If that means playing better teams and maybe losing a few games, schedule that way.  Either way, the QRF puts you in about the same spot.  So schedule to manipulate what is best for your team, not what is best for your seed or QRF number (because in general, the QRF will slot you in the same spot).

Take a look at the data from 8AA Boys, I'll be following them all year to show that Line of Demarcation holding.  8AA is seeding all 16 teams together, so this Section has the most opportunity to follow the most teams at once.

Check back each week to watch that line move (or not)!

TEAM Record Overall QRF Avg Opp QRF vs Higher QRF vs Lower QRF
Perham (2-0) 28 239 (0-0) (2-0)
Barnesville (3-0) 87 291 (0-0) (3-0)
Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton (4-0) 122 318 (0-0) (4-0)
Warroad (4-1) 165 268 (0-1) (4-0)
Staples-Motley (2-2) 166 170 (1-2) (1-0)
East Grand Forks (2-2) 198 190 (1-1) (1-1)
Wadena-Deer Creek (2-2) 256 276 (0-2) (2-0)
Breckenridge (1-2) 266 168 (0-2) (1-0)
Bagley (2-3) 268 231 (1-2) (1-1)
Crookston (1-4) 281 168 (1-4) (0-0)
Roseau (1-3) 327 224 (0-3) (1-0)
Badger/Greenbush-Middle River (1-3) 337 268 (0-3) (1-0)
Hawley (0-5) 375 146 (0-5) (0-0)
Park Rapids Area (0-4) 384 175 (0-4) (0-0)
Frazee (0-4) 392 190 (0-4) (0-0)
Pelican Rapids (0-4) 392 149 (0-4) (0-0)
(4-37) 9.8% (21-2) 91.3%







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Badger/Greenbush-Middle River

QRF Rank 337
vs Higher QRF (0-3)
vs Lower QRF (1-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 268
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
186 Kittson County Central A 50 60 L
197 Stephen-Argyle A 60 73 L
295 Clearbrook-Gonvick A 49 64 L
394 Goodridge/Grygla A 65 55 W
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Bagley

QRF Rank 268
vs Higher QRF (1-2)
vs Lower QRF (1-1)
Avg. Opp QRF 231
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
86 Thief River Falls AAA 62 78 L
198 East Grand Forks AA 60 61 L
261 Win-E-Mac A 73 66 W
281 Crookston AA 46 58 L
327 Roseau AA 69 47 W
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Barnesville

QRF Rank 87
vs Higher QRF (0-0)
vs Lower QRF (3-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 291
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
198 East Grand Forks AA 61 46 W
266 Breckenridge AA 55 52 W
408 Ashby A 79 22 W
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Breckenridge

QRF Rank 266
vs Higher QRF (0-2)
vs Lower QRF (1-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 168
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
41 Fergus Falls AAA 58 83 L
87 Barnesville AA 52 55 L
375 Hawley AA 76 49 W

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Crookston

QRF Rank 281
vs Higher QRF (1-4)
vs Lower QRF (0-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 168
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
71 Grand Rapids AAA 47 61 L
80 Ada-Borup A 47 61 L
158 Bemidji AAA 58 67 L
261 Win-E-Mac A 62 67 L
268 Bagley AA 58 46 W
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Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton

QRF Rank 122
vs Higher QRF (0-0)
vs Lower QRF (4-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 318
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
213 Lake Park-Audubon A 59 49 W
298 Park Christian A 67 56 W
384 Park Rapids Area AA 67 29 W
375 Hawley AA 74 57 W
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East Grand Forks

QRF Rank 198
vs Higher QRF (1-1)
vs Lower QRF (1-1)
Avg. Opp QRF 190
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
87 Barnesville AA 46 61 L
197 Stephen-Argyle A 61 60 W
206 Warren-Alvarado-Oslo A 36 38 L
268 Bagley AA 61 60 W
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Frazee

QRF Rank 392
vs Higher QRF (0-4)
vs Lower QRF (0-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 190
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
131 Battle Lake A 27 62 L
180 NCE/U-H A 42 57 L
204 Sebeka A 30 57 L
245 Menahga A 33 52 L
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Hawley

QRF Rank 375
vs Higher QRF (0-5)
vs Lower QRF (0-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 146
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
50 Detroit Lakes AAA 28 63 L
80 Ada-Borup A 29 61 L
122 Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton AA 57 74 L
213 Lake Park-Audubon A 48 55 L
266 Breckenridge AA 49 76 L
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Park Rapids Area

QRF Rank 384
vs Higher QRF (0-4)
vs Lower QRF (0-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 175
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
122 Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton AA 29 67 L
166 Staples-Motley AA 49 61 L
168 Pillager AA 44 45 L
245 Menahga A 44 48 L
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Pelican Rapids

QRF Rank 392
vs Higher QRF (0-4)
vs Lower QRF (0-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 149
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
28 Perham AA 30 66 L
131 Hillcrest Lutheran Academy A 41 70 L
180 NCE/U-H A 52 63 L
256 Wadena-Deer Creek AA 67 72 L
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Perham

QRF Rank 28
vs Higher QRF (0-0)
vs Lower QRF (2-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 239
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
85 Spring Lake Park AAAA 59 53 W
392 Pelican Rapids AA 66 30 W
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Roseau

QRF Rank 327
vs Higher QRF (0-3)
vs Lower QRF (1-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 224
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
90 Northern Freeze A 38 51 L
165 Warroad AA 55 71 L
268 Bagley AA 47 69 L
372 Lake of the Woods A 80 52 W
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Staples-Motley

QRF Rank 166
vs Higher QRF (1-2)
vs Lower QRF (1-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 170
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
50 Detroit Lakes AAA 64 86 L
91 Minnewaska Area AA 64 69 L
153 Holdingford AA 61 59 W
384 Park Rapids Area AA 61 49 W
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Wadena-Deer Creek

QRF Rank 256
vs Higher QRF (0-2)
vs Lower QRF (2-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 276
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
129 Long Prairie-Grey Eagle AA 53 67 L
247 Verndale A 34 65 L
334 Bertha-Hewitt A 59 53 W
392 Pelican Rapids AA 72 67 W
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Warroad

QRF Rank 165
vs Higher QRF (0-1)
vs Lower QRF (4-0)
Avg. Opp QRF 268
O-QRF Opponent Class Score
86 Thief River Falls AAA 37 52 L
206 Warren-Alvarado-Oslo A 62 39 W
327 Roseau AA 71 55 W
350 Littlefork-Big Falls A 85 31 W
372 Lake of the Woods A 82 41 W
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